Well I finally shot the 25-20. Since I am only using the formed 32-20 cases I only shoot 7 shots a day. The first day I used HS 7 and an 85 grain lead bullet. Not one hole in the paper. When I returned home I noticed that the sights were set at 125 yards, I felt better about the missed target. Next day I went out and it is dead on the center, and is grouping very good. I used Trail Boss and an 85 grain lead bullet. I will shoot it of the rest next time for grouping.