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    found two intersting cartraiges.

    well only two found. they are straight wall
    2in long just a hair over 5mm.
    mouth has a taper. more like a crimp then a taper in the wall.
    base at just under .475in, 12mm.
    groove at .400in, just a touch over 1mm.
    case wall just about the groove is the same as the base.
    tapers slightly down to about .450 in, 1.1? mm. about 1/2 in below the case mouth.
    mouth with taper is 3.75in, .95 mm.
    only id marks are "LC" "15" and what looks like a philips head of a screw.
    the groove area looks like it has been through a lath. aka: recut.
    in brass with boxer.
    yes these have been shot.

    best i can tell is a possible 38-55 winchester & ballard made for the early winchester 94 rifle.
    to short for a 444 marlin, base to small for a 45-70.

    anything???



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    308win converted to 44 automag?

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    will try not very good with this computer stuff.
    but look like over grown m1 carbine cartridges.

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    well that did not work.

    tried to get a photo to post up.
    Last edited by packnrat; 02-18-2016 at 03:31 PM.

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    Too long for automag upon looking into it.. 308 fired in a 30-06 chamber is my guess

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    Everyone is eagerly awaiting a pic to see what it is.

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    image.jpg

    does this work?

    not sure why it came out sideways?

    but here is a photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packnrat View Post
    image.jpg

    does this work?

    not sure why it came out sideways?

    but here is a photo.
    Looks like it could be a nagant revolver case. 7.62x38R

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    Quote Originally Posted by SafetyJoe View Post
    Looks like it could be a nagant revolver case. 7.62x38R
    at 2 inches long?

    5.69mm long--2inches
    1.28 neck--just under 4.5 1/1000 in
    1.9 base--just under 4.75 1/1000 in
    1.9 bottom of case --just under 4.5 1/1000 in
    large primer.
    metric done by a dial, inch by a much older manual unit. (see photo).

    the revolver case is only 38.86mm / 1.530in long.
    Last edited by packnrat; 02-25-2016 at 04:43 AM.

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    The LC head stamp most likely means that it was converted from NATO 7.62X51 (308 Win) brass. The "Phillips screwdriver" thing is a circle with a cross in it, NATO designation. the "15" means that it was 2015 date of manufacture, so a recent conversion.

    Most likely somebody's wildcat.

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    i was believing the 15 was for date.
    so the cross in a circle = nato.

    not having gotten into conversions (wildcats). but would it not still have the stamping of the org cartridge?
    or do the manf "re-stamp" the base?

    maybe if i win a lottery i can have a rifle made to fit these cartridges? sure only two now. but if i had million$ -a$ in dollar$- (dreaming--billion$)


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    It's 308 fired in a 30-06 chamber. Google it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbaker78 View Post
    It's 308 fired in a 30-06 chamber. Google it

    Appears this is correct

    http://lagniappeslair.blogspot.com/2...cartridge.html
    Last edited by rogerf; 02-27-2016 at 01:41 PM.

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    looks like we have a winner here.


    as i could not find anything about a wildcat, or odd ball, or obsolete cartridge.

    i will just hang onto these two, for? if nothing other than to show people.

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